HR 45 Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009
 

I guess this means you'll need a Federal license to legally buy a firearm.

Bill HR 45 http://www.rightparty.org/

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Just the opening barrage on the 2nd Amendment. These liberals in Congress think they have a mandate now that the Messiah has been elected POTUS. They've learned they can't kill the 2nd Amendment outright, so they'll try all kinds of end-runs to strangle it slowly. They'll tie up the purchasing process with so much bureaucracy and regulations that buying a firearm will be so time-consuming and invasive to one's privacy that most folks will just say "hell with it." Not to mention the defacto registration system a bill like this will create.

I can hear all the bitching now about how contacting your Congress-critter is a waste of time, but it's the first step. Fax or email the POS and remind them of what happened with the mid-term elections during BJ Clinton's first term. Put the bastards on notice that we won't take this lying down.

F**kin A$$holes!

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Well I need to purchase at least 1 more handgun and would like to get 2 more rifles and 1 more shotgun. I better get moving. I know where my tax return this year is going, I also hope Barky gives us some sort of stimulus check by June and I have time to spend that on boomsticks also.

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One of the many reasons I voted for John McCain and republican congressmen. Hope all you Paul and Dem voters will be happy when things like this come to pass.

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Anyone who is reading this and doesn't own guns needs to cancel their internet access right now and use the money to buy guns with.

What'cha been thinking?????

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That will yeild NOTHING ........these bastards have two long years to run rough shod over the 2nd ammendment by time mid terms come back around we will need to get NICS checks for slingshots.


The only plan that is worth anything is buy every gun/ammo and mag RIGHT NOW.

It will not get any better for us

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Something tells me the sell outs who get kicked to the curb in 2 years will fall in to a cushy lobbying or consulting job.

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if they dont wind up takin dirt-naps first.

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Just got done reading the thread on this over on AR15.com. Wow. They are going crazy over this one already. Damn right to be though.

I don't think this will go anywhere in congress, but as others stated over there this is kind of just blowing smoke up our asses for when something that seems like less, but is more well defined will go through congress screwing our 2nd amendment rights.

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Oh, I'm not so delusional to think that these bastards still represent us (though my Rep in the House is actually pretty decent.)

The other bullshit I posted was Plan B. What I've highlighted in your quote is my Plan A, and I've been following it religiously since this time last year.... :coolbeer:

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If this ever passed. Only fools would register or apply for that license. First this, now they know you have it, and they can tax you on it. Then later they will try to take it away.

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Is this an updated version of the story?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=86039


WEAPONS OF CHOICE
Big Brother's new target: Tracking of all firearms
'This is nothing less than a declaration of war on American gun owners'

Posted: January 13, 2009
10:08 pm Eastern


By Drew Zahn
� 2009 WorldNetDaily



Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Ill.

U.S. Representative Bobby Rush, D-Ill., is hoping to pass a firearm licensing bill that will significantly rewrite gun ownership laws in America.

Among the more controversial provisions of the bill are requirements that all handgun owners submit to the federal government a photo, thumb print and release of mental heath records. Further, the bill would order the attorney general to establish a database of every handgun sale, transfer and owner's address in America.

The bill claims its purpose is "to protect the pubic against the unreasonable risk of injury and death associated with the unrecorded sale or transfer of firearms to criminals and youth."

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Columnist David Codrea of Guns Magazine, however, calls it a "ridiculous affront to liberty."

"This is nothing less than a declaration of war on American gun owners," Codrea writes on Gun Rights Examiner.


Rush's proposed bill, H.R. 45, is alternatively known as "Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009," named after an Illinois teenager killed by a gunshot.

According the bill's text, "On the afternoon of May 10, 2007, Blair Holt, a junior at Julian High School in Chicago, was killed on a public bus riding home from school when he used his body to shield a girl who was in the line of fire after a young man boarded the bus and started shooting."

The bill then argues that interstate firearm trafficking and children dying from gun violence create legitimate cause for the federal government to monitor gun ownership and transfers in new ways.

If passed, the bill would make it illegal to own or possess a "qualifying firearm" – defined as any handgun or any semiautomatic firearm that takes an ammunition clip – without a "Blair Holt" license.

To obtain a "Blair Holt" license, an application must be made that includes a photo, address, all previous aliases, thumb print, completion of a written firearm safety test, release of mental health records to the attorney general and a fee not to exceed $25.

Further, the bill makes it illegal to transfer ownership of a qualifying firearm to anyone who is not a licensed gun dealer or collector. Exceptions to this rule include transfer to family members by gift or bequest and loans, not to exceed 30 days, of a firearm for lawful purposes "between persons who are personally known to each other."

The bill also requires qualifying firearm owners to report all transfers to the attorney general's database. It would also be illegal for a licensed gun owner to fail to record a gun loss or theft within 72 hours or fail to report a change of address within 60 days.

And if a minor obtains a weapon and injures someone with it, the owner of the gun – if deemed to have failed to meet certain safety requirements – faces a multiple-year jail sentence.

H.R. 45 is a resurfacing of 2007's H.R. 2666, which contained much of the same language and was co-sponsored by 15 other representatives and Barack Obama's current chief of staff, Rahm Emmanuel. H.R. 2666 was assigned to the House Judiciary committee, where no action was taken.

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Currently collecting along with accessories.

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Some more linkage on this bill.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

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Did you catch how often the Atty Gen is mentioned and how the Atty Gen will regulate everything ? .......sheesh, like Eric Holder needs any help with this. :rant:

Also, isn't this about equal or worse than acquiring a Class III full-auto weapon with permission, pics, and fingerprints ?!?! :banghead:

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HR 2666 was the previous name.....

Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2007

To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.

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• Official: To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes. as introduced.
• Short: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2007 as introduced.

6/11/2007--Introduced.
Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2007 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements.
Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system.
Prohibits:
(1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions;
(2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act;
(3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours;
(4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address change within 60 days; or
(5) keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury.
Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions covered by this Act.
Directs the Attorney General to:
(1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse;
(2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and
(3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer.
Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm licensing or record of sale systems.


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http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h2666/show

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Oh, shut up, Codrea...if it's really a declaration of war, what do you plan to do about it? Talk, yeah, that's right.

Same big talk as in South Africa in 1994.

This country is %$#*ing doomed...it's going to die, not with a bang, but a whimper.